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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-518&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@The Skald &lt;/a&gt; 
Guest column?  It&#039;s in the mail.</description>
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Guest column?  It&#8217;s in the mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Vice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Vice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!</description>
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		<title>By: The Skald</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Skald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-517&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@tom Vail &lt;/a&gt; 

I got caught up in Jeff&#039;s comment too - he&#039;s actually a hell of an analyst... that can write! I&#039;ve taken quotes and bent them myself - and I really don&#039;t have much of a problem with a little bending as long as I&#039;m not pretending that I&#039;m calling on this or that founder &quot;who agrees with what I&#039;m saying - see? He said virtually the same thing, except better...&quot; 

A good example is the movie &quot;The Rock.&quot; He uses precisely the quote I mentioned, and though the writer bent it, it works because when Ed Harris says the line, not only is he engaged in a little insurrection, it is for the reasons Jefferson alluded to in his letter. A side benefit of course, is that when Sean Connery self-righteously quotes Solzhenitsyn he does it for the wrong reasons - of course, the movie goer might not be familiar with that, which I think the screenwriter counted on... 

So I definitely get your point too - because I&#039;ll likely keep using awesome quotes that sound better than my own words :cool: but I&#039;ll try to keep my intentions and outcomes honorable :lol:

Cheers Friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-517" rel="nofollow">@tom Vail </a> </p>
<p>I got caught up in Jeff&#8217;s comment too &#8211; he&#8217;s actually a hell of an analyst&#8230; that can write! I&#8217;ve taken quotes and bent them myself &#8211; and I really don&#8217;t have much of a problem with a little bending as long as I&#8217;m not pretending that I&#8217;m calling on this or that founder &#8220;who agrees with what I&#8217;m saying &#8211; see? He said virtually the same thing, except better&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>A good example is the movie &#8220;The Rock.&#8221; He uses precisely the quote I mentioned, and though the writer bent it, it works because when Ed Harris says the line, not only is he engaged in a little insurrection, it is for the reasons Jefferson alluded to in his letter. A side benefit of course, is that when Sean Connery self-righteously quotes Solzhenitsyn he does it for the wrong reasons &#8211; of course, the movie goer might not be familiar with that, which I think the screenwriter counted on&#8230; </p>
<p>So I definitely get your point too &#8211; because I&#8217;ll likely keep using awesome quotes that sound better than my own words <img src='http://www.skalduggery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' />  but I&#8217;ll try to keep my intentions and outcomes honorable <img src='http://www.skalduggery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers Friend!</p>
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		<title>By: The Skald</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Skald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-516&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jeff &lt;/a&gt; 

I gotta tell ya Jeff, I sure do miss the JavaSpook! You&#039;ve a gift for taking what many democrats would call a &quot;murky, complex problem&quot; and throwing it into stark and &quot;simple&quot; relief. And you manage to do it with a style that cuts to the quick and yet conjures up a wry smile or two... sometimes even a belly laugh... because really, laughing at the misery is truly better than crying about it.

So, when are you gonna do a guest column for me?

Your comments about romantic love and the &quot;over-reaching feminist cause&quot; made me cringe - precisely because I have seen some of its effects. Is there a solution that can be implemented or taught? Should we jump right in and start trying to turn &quot;the groves of academe&quot; into a bastion of diversity... of thought rather than ethnicity or gender?

You&#039;re welcome for the &quot;therapy&quot; :roll: and thanks for the razor sharp response! Oh, and about that guest column...?

Cheers Buddy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-516" rel="nofollow">@Jeff </a> </p>
<p>I gotta tell ya Jeff, I sure do miss the JavaSpook! You&#8217;ve a gift for taking what many democrats would call a &#8220;murky, complex problem&#8221; and throwing it into stark and &#8220;simple&#8221; relief. And you manage to do it with a style that cuts to the quick and yet conjures up a wry smile or two&#8230; sometimes even a belly laugh&#8230; because really, laughing at the misery is truly better than crying about it.</p>
<p>So, when are you gonna do a guest column for me?</p>
<p>Your comments about romantic love and the &#8220;over-reaching feminist cause&#8221; made me cringe &#8211; precisely because I have seen some of its effects. Is there a solution that can be implemented or taught? Should we jump right in and start trying to turn &#8220;the groves of academe&#8221; into a bastion of diversity&#8230; of thought rather than ethnicity or gender?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome for the &#8220;therapy&#8221; <img src='http://www.skalduggery.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  and thanks for the razor sharp response! Oh, and about that guest column&#8230;?</p>
<p>Cheers Buddy!</p>
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		<title>By: tom Vail</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom Vail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here to write a brief note regarding Steven&#039;s post and then got caught up in Jeff&#039;s comment.
Steven, I agree with your comment about the use of quotes.  I, too, have often used the part of the quote that meets my need, which to be honest, probably distorts the meaning beyond recognition.  I&#039;m not sure how bad that is, if the quote (as I have limited it) serves the purpose to make the argument or explanation more understandable.  If it is just to twist the words and make it look like Anne Frank loves Nazis, then that is bad and should be avoided.  Will try to look at Bill Whittle tonight.  As always, your post made me think - well written, challenging, fun.  
Now for Jeff&#039;s comment. It made me think of something that happened in California about 20-25 years ago.  Here I am going from memory and may not be as accurate as I should be (just don&#039;t have the time today to research it).  I think it was the Legislature that wrote a State Law that required the State Department of Education (not that they  or the teachers unions objected) to create a new curriculum in all California Schools.  It was basically mandating &quot;self esteem training.&quot;  Teachers were required (and may still be) to teach children that they were all equal and all good and that basically no one was bad (just caught in bad circumstances) and that we must love ourselves.  When I finished barfing, I made the decision to move out of California.
.-= tom Vail&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ttoes.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/20-40-issue-20-your-favorite-issue-goes-here/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;20 – 40 (issue #20)  Your Favorite Issue Goes Here&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here to write a brief note regarding Steven&#8217;s post and then got caught up in Jeff&#8217;s comment.<br />
Steven, I agree with your comment about the use of quotes.  I, too, have often used the part of the quote that meets my need, which to be honest, probably distorts the meaning beyond recognition.  I&#8217;m not sure how bad that is, if the quote (as I have limited it) serves the purpose to make the argument or explanation more understandable.  If it is just to twist the words and make it look like Anne Frank loves Nazis, then that is bad and should be avoided.  Will try to look at Bill Whittle tonight.  As always, your post made me think &#8211; well written, challenging, fun.<br />
Now for Jeff&#8217;s comment. It made me think of something that happened in California about 20-25 years ago.  Here I am going from memory and may not be as accurate as I should be (just don&#8217;t have the time today to research it).  I think it was the Legislature that wrote a State Law that required the State Department of Education (not that they  or the teachers unions objected) to create a new curriculum in all California Schools.  It was basically mandating &#8220;self esteem training.&#8221;  Teachers were required (and may still be) to teach children that they were all equal and all good and that basically no one was bad (just caught in bad circumstances) and that we must love ourselves.  When I finished barfing, I made the decision to move out of California.<br />
.-= tom Vail&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://ttoes.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/20-40-issue-20-your-favorite-issue-goes-here/" rel="nofollow">20 – 40 (issue #20)  Your Favorite Issue Goes Here</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tear you up?!  I&#039;m actually known at the detention center for telling the kids, &quot;Yes, you are a beautiful and unique snowflake.  Just like all the other beautiful and unique snowflakes in here.&quot;  There are far too many people believing themselves of value to the world simply by being born.  I recently described the state of Virginia as &quot;the only state I know where everyone is the most important person in the world.&quot;

This mass-narcissism affects the bulk of the United States, I believe, and it&#039;s only getting worse.  Just yesterday I did some thinking on the way home along these lines when I heard of a new practice called &quot;mini-marriages.&quot;  This is where two people get married but live apart so they don&#039;t have to deal with each other constantly in the hopes that the divorce rate will decrease.  Why can&#039;t two people live together in harmony anymore?  Because everyone needs to be the winner.  Arguments aren&#039;t settled these days, they&#039;re swept under the rug to bubble because saturnian egos colliding would lead to the destruction of one or both.

I further wondered if this has fed into degrading the belief in romantic love, where two people are able to complete each other - make a single unit.  Women are largely taught that the idea of romantic love is degrading, the very suggestion that they&#039;re not a complete entity leaves them as less than human.  This argument ignores the fact that the male would be suffering the same thing, putting them once more on an even if different field, but it&#039;s not convenient to an over-reaching feminist cause.  It&#039;s further reinforced by &#039;cosmopolitan&#039; males who hold the African standard of polygeny up as the natural state of things (due to a lack of self-control in my opinion).  This &#039;natural state&#039; has led to an HIV epidemic.  Nature usually favors the path with the best survivability, doesn&#039;t it?

At the center is the individual who wishes to go beyond the bounds of what it means to be individual.  They take the word to mean &quot;me and only me&quot; rather than one entity among many.  Instead of &quot;I think, therefore, I am&quot; it&#039;s &quot;I think, therefore, I am better than you.&quot;

I went to bed wondering if I needed to hurry up and die before I&#039;m crushed under the divine weight of so many demigods walking the earth demanding worship for their uniqueness.  Don&#039;t even get me started on urban-diva-culture.  I have to admit to a little satisfaction at imagining every overly-manicured razorbeast calling themselves a diva lined up to let Sean Connery discipline them old-school.

I suppose now that I&#039;ve said that I can never run for political office... and I feel like I&#039;ve just been to therapy.  Thanks, Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tear you up?!  I&#8217;m actually known at the detention center for telling the kids, &#8220;Yes, you are a beautiful and unique snowflake.  Just like all the other beautiful and unique snowflakes in here.&#8221;  There are far too many people believing themselves of value to the world simply by being born.  I recently described the state of Virginia as &#8220;the only state I know where everyone is the most important person in the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>This mass-narcissism affects the bulk of the United States, I believe, and it&#8217;s only getting worse.  Just yesterday I did some thinking on the way home along these lines when I heard of a new practice called &#8220;mini-marriages.&#8221;  This is where two people get married but live apart so they don&#8217;t have to deal with each other constantly in the hopes that the divorce rate will decrease.  Why can&#8217;t two people live together in harmony anymore?  Because everyone needs to be the winner.  Arguments aren&#8217;t settled these days, they&#8217;re swept under the rug to bubble because saturnian egos colliding would lead to the destruction of one or both.</p>
<p>I further wondered if this has fed into degrading the belief in romantic love, where two people are able to complete each other &#8211; make a single unit.  Women are largely taught that the idea of romantic love is degrading, the very suggestion that they&#8217;re not a complete entity leaves them as less than human.  This argument ignores the fact that the male would be suffering the same thing, putting them once more on an even if different field, but it&#8217;s not convenient to an over-reaching feminist cause.  It&#8217;s further reinforced by &#8216;cosmopolitan&#8217; males who hold the African standard of polygeny up as the natural state of things (due to a lack of self-control in my opinion).  This &#8216;natural state&#8217; has led to an HIV epidemic.  Nature usually favors the path with the best survivability, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>At the center is the individual who wishes to go beyond the bounds of what it means to be individual.  They take the word to mean &#8220;me and only me&#8221; rather than one entity among many.  Instead of &#8220;I think, therefore, I am&#8221; it&#8217;s &#8220;I think, therefore, I am better than you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I went to bed wondering if I needed to hurry up and die before I&#8217;m crushed under the divine weight of so many demigods walking the earth demanding worship for their uniqueness.  Don&#8217;t even get me started on urban-diva-culture.  I have to admit to a little satisfaction at imagining every overly-manicured razorbeast calling themselves a diva lined up to let Sean Connery discipline them old-school.</p>
<p>I suppose now that I&#8217;ve said that I can never run for political office&#8230; and I feel like I&#8217;ve just been to therapy.  Thanks, Steve.</p>
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