Comments on: Bothering with Citizenship http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/ Skalded Musings and Random Thoughts on Current and Not so Current Events Wed, 26 Oct 2011 00:56:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: The Skald http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-189 The Skald Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:59:32 +0000 http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/#comment-189 <a href="#comment-187" rel="nofollow">@tom Vail </a> I couldn't agree more Tom. We definitely need to act at the ballot box, and more! The idea that education should be monopolized by the state, even if the intent is noble, is abhorrent. Controlling the the entire public (and of course any schools accepting federal funds) curricula mitigates against the very diversity of ideas our government claims to support. Be it cap and tax, health care-health insurance-health what ever reform, or education I share a similar disappointment with our leadership. Though she's firmly on the left and I tend to disagree with her political positions, Naomi Wolf writes authoritatively about our founders and the current gobbledegook that passes for legislation these days. She believes it's deliberate, intended to keep regular citizens out of government. I believe she is probably right. You're right too, as citizens we shoulder at least part of the blame for our current condition - I think perhaps that conservatives had better start community organizing on their own... Steven @tom Vail

I couldn’t agree more Tom. We definitely need to act at the ballot box, and more! The idea that education should be monopolized by the state, even if the intent is noble, is abhorrent. Controlling the the entire public (and of course any schools accepting federal funds) curricula mitigates against the very diversity of ideas our government claims to support. Be it cap and tax, health care-health insurance-health what ever reform, or education I share a similar disappointment with our leadership. Though she’s firmly on the left and I tend to disagree with her political positions, Naomi Wolf writes authoritatively about our founders and the current gobbledegook that passes for legislation these days. She believes it’s deliberate, intended to keep regular citizens out of government. I believe she is probably right.

You’re right too, as citizens we shoulder at least part of the blame for our current condition – I think perhaps that conservatives had better start community organizing on their own…

Steven

]]> By: The Skald http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-188 The Skald Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:39:02 +0000 http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/#comment-188 <a href="#comment-186" rel="nofollow">@Mr. Grim </a> Thanks buddy. Of course, judging by the response to this post (large for me) and the email, and even more important, my wife, I'll have to aim at communicating a little better. Glad you agree though! :D @Mr. Grim

Thanks buddy. Of course, judging by the response to this post (large for me) and the email, and even more important, my wife, I’ll have to aim at communicating a little better. Glad you agree though! :D

]]> By: tom Vail http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-187 tom Vail Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:31:57 +0000 http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/#comment-187 As usual, Steven, you are on an intellectual plane that leaves me in the dust. Assuming I have interpreted you correctly, I agree with your caution that we take ourselves and our ideas too seriously. The utopian idea that we can provide perfect health care for all is handy as a goal but worthless as a policy. When we legislate that all animals are equal, the reality will come back and bite us with the truth that some animals are more equal than others. Watching the Congress and major interest groups (AARP, AMA) abandon all semblance of ethical behavior to force through a bill that they believe is a 'greater good' is to see a sellout of the most important building blocks of our nation. The rights of citizens in this country are being suspended because a large number of politicians believe the end justifies the means. I guess I am so disappointed with the current crowd in power that I can't help bring any discussion of politics, citizenship, or patriotism back to this: We are only as good as our leadership and our leadership is only as good as we are responsible citizens. At the first opportunity we need to act at the ballot box and tell our politicians to behave ethically or you will be replaced. Tom (ttoes.wordpress.com) As usual, Steven, you are on an intellectual plane that leaves me in the dust. Assuming I have interpreted you correctly, I agree with your caution that we take ourselves and our ideas too seriously. The utopian idea that we can provide perfect health care for all is handy as a goal but worthless as a policy. When we legislate that all animals are equal, the reality will come back and bite us with the truth that some animals are more equal than others. Watching the Congress and major interest groups (AARP, AMA) abandon all semblance of ethical behavior to force through a bill that they believe is a ‘greater good’ is to see a sellout of the most important building blocks of our nation. The rights of citizens in this country are being suspended because a large number of politicians believe the end justifies the means. I guess I am so disappointed with the current crowd in power that I can’t help bring any discussion of politics, citizenship, or patriotism back to this: We are only as good as our leadership and our leadership is only as good as we are responsible citizens. At the first opportunity we need to act at the ballot box and tell our politicians to behave ethically or you will be replaced.

Tom (ttoes.wordpress.com)

]]> By: Mr. Grim http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-186 Mr. Grim Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:22:47 +0000 http://www.skalduggery.com/2009/11/05/bothering-with-citizenship/#comment-186 As much as I would love to leave a long-winded and overly verbose comment on this particular post, I find that all that needs to be said has already been said. Consequently, it leaves me with but one sentence for comment: I could not agree more. As much as I would love to leave a long-winded and overly verbose comment on this particular post, I find that all that needs to be said has already been said. Consequently, it leaves me with but one sentence for comment:

I could not agree more.

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